"Now when Jesus came into the parts of Caesarea
Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say
that the Son of man is? And they said, Some say John the
Baptist; some, Elijah: and others, Jeremiah, or one of
the prophets. He saith unto them, But who say ye that I
am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the
Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and
said unto him, Blessed art thou Simon Bar-Jonah: for
flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
Father which is in heaven. And I also say unto thee, that
thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my
church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against
it" (Matthew 16:13-18).
"Therefore I say unto you, The kingdom of God
shall be taken away from you and shall be given to a
nation bringing forth the fruits thereof"
THE CHURCH IS
We have been saying very much about the Kingdom of
God, and have remarked more than once that the Gospel by
Matthew is peculiarly the Gospel of the Kingdom. Now
here, right in the middle of this Gospel which is all
about the Kingdom, suddenly and without any explanation
or introduction the Church is mentioned, and it is
mentioned as though everybody understood what it meant.
Jesus does not say: 'Now I am going to speak about
something else. I have been speaking about the Kingdom,
but now I am going to speak about the Church, and then I
shall have some more things to say about the Kingdom.'
There is nothing like that. It is taken for granted that
these people understood what He meant by the Church, and,
indeed, it was no new idea to them. It may surprise some
of you when I say that the Jews knew about the Church. In
that long and very interesting discourse of Stephen's
which ended in his being stoned to death, Stephen said
that God was "in the church in the wilderness"
The point is: is it the same thing here or is there a
difference? Of course there is something new here,
because Jesus says: "I will build MY
Church", so that whatever the other church was, the
one that He was going to build was something other.
Indeed, He had come to constitute a NEW Israel.
I have often been asked the question: 'What is the
difference between the Kingdom and the Church?' I am not
going to enter upon that subject now, that is, I am not
going to discuss the technical points in the matter. If
there is a difference - and I believe there is - it will
come out in what we are going to say.
What is the purpose of our having conferences? We will
answer that by asking some other questions.
Firstly, why is the New Testament so very much occupied
with ministry to Christians? Of course, you recognize
that that is a fact. By far the greater part of the New
Testament is concerned with Christians.
Another question of the same kind: Why were Peter and
John and Paul so intensely concerned about Christians?
Indeed, they were deeply and strongly concerned about
Christians. Paul at one time says that we should be
'anxious for nothing', but another time, included in all
his difficulties and troubles, is 'anxiety for all the
churches'. These men had a real anxiety and concern for
Christians. Paul said about the Christians in Galatia:
"Of whom I am again in travail" (Galatians
4:19). If you can answer this question you can answer my
first one: Why is it that for many years we have had
The answer is found in the two passages of Scripture
which we read. In both of those Scriptures we have a
transition. In the first it is a very beautiful
transition; in the second it is a very tragic one. Let us
take the second first.
"Therefore I say unto you" - and this is to the
Jews of His time - "The kingdom of God shall be
taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation
bringing forth the fruits thereof."
That is a tragic transition - the taking of the Kingdom
of God away from a nation and giving it to another. We
will come to the first transition in a minute, but let us
say without any further delay that the Church is the
concentration of the truths of the Kingdom of God. You
may not quite understand what I mean by that, but the
Church contains the concentration of all the truths of
Now we will look at this second transition. The old
Israel had all the oracles of God. We can say that they
had all the truth, for they had all that came through
Moses, all that came through the Prophets, and they had
the full content of the Old Testament, which was the
content of the Kingdom of God in the old dispensation.
They had all the teaching and all the truth, all the law,
the Psalms and the Prophets, but they did not bring forth
the fruits thereof, and there is a very big difference
between having the truth and bringing forth the fruit of
the truth. There is a very great difference between
having the knowledge of the Kingdom and having the fruit
of the Kingdom. You know that the New Testament is always
aware of a great peril in the history of God's people,
for three times the dying of the first Israelite nation
in the wilderness is used as a warning to Christians.
That nation had had all the signs in Egypt, and all the
testimony of the Passover Lamb and the precious blood,
and all the experience of being brought out of Egypt and
through the Red Sea by the very power of God. They had
had all the supernatural provision of God in the
wilderness, but that generation perished in the
wilderness. It did not make the great transition, and I
say that that is used three times in the New Testament as
a warning to Christians. Then the last book of the New
Testament sees the Christian Church in a state of
decline, and the Lord Jesus appearing to the Apostle John
with strong warnings about this decline.
So the New Testament contains this warning, this fear,
for Christians, and it is because there is something so
much more for them and that they might miss it. That is
the answer to the question: Why conferences?
CRISES IN THE CHRISTIAN LIFE
Let me say to the most experienced and mature
Christians here, even to those who are the leaders, the
teachers and the preachers to God's people: be careful
that you never come to the place where it is not possible
for God to do a bigger thing in your life than He has
ever done before. You may have a lot of experience and a
lot of history. You may have been a Christian for many
years and have done a lot of Christian work and
preaching, but we never reach a point where it is not
possible for God to do something that He has never done
Now we have been giving a great deal of teaching. Do you
think that that is all that we came here to do? Is that
what you came here to get? Did you come here only to get
your notebooks full of notes of teaching? Well, that is
not my idea about the conference. We are here for a
crisis. The idea of these conferences is that there
should be crises in lives, and the teaching is only
intended to bring us to such crises.
I do not present myself as an example, but so far as I am
concerned, conferences sprang out of a crisis. I did not
say over thirty years ago 'Now it will be nice to have
some conferences in which we will give the Christians a
lot of teaching.' God had brought about a tremendous
crisis in my life. I had been a minister of churches for
years. I had organized a tremendous amount of Christian
work. Oh, yes, I was a very busy minister! And I was a
Bible teacher. I was a member of a Bible Teachers'
Association; - and then God brought about a crisis, such
a tremendous crisis in my ministerial life that all the
past was as nothing. From that crisis everything was
changed. There was a new ministry because of a new life.
I have always called that my 'opened heaven'.
Now I am not saying that I am your example, but I am
getting to grips with this principle. I doubt whether
there is anyone here who is more fully occupied than I
was before that crisis, but I repeat, when God did that
new thing in my life the past was as nothing.
Now our concern and our purpose in having conferences is
that CHRISTIANS can say: 'God has done a new
thing.' We know of a brother in Scandinavia whom the Lord
had used quite a lot. He came to a conference and God met
him in such a way that he says today: 'At that time, and
in that conference God gave me a new Bible and an
altogether new vision.' For years since that time God has
been using him as He never used him before.
What I am saying is that there is a transition which has
to be made. I will begin at the beginning, where the
transition really begins, and it is in this matter of
gathering the fruits of the Kingdom into the Church, that
is, the Church becoming the embodiment of the FRUITS
of the Kingdom.
DISTINCTIVENESS OF TESTIMONY
The first thing about the Kingdom of God, whether it
is in the Old Testament or in the New Testament, is this:
The Kingdom of God is always selective and distinctive.
The rule of God came down into the nations and took hold
of one nation, selecting it from among the nations.
The first law of the Kingdom of God is separation. You
have only to look at the history of Israel to see that.
God said to Israel: 'You are a separate nation and are
different from all the other peoples in the world.' That
Israel lost its distinctiveness, for they intermarried
with other peoples. You read the books of Ezra and
Nehemiah. What a terrible business it was to separate the
Lord's people from the ones they had married! They lost
their distinctiveness of life and vocation, and the
distinctiveness of their testimony in the world. They
lost the fruits of the Kingdom of God. They had all the
tradition, all the teaching and all the oracles, but they
lost all the fruits thereof.
So the first fruit of the Kingdom of God which has to be
recovered is an absolute distinctiveness of life and
testimony. Christianity is in a terrible position today.
There are those who are saying that the day of
Christianity is over and it is no longer a force to be
reckoned with. Of course, that is an extreme view, but
there is a great deal of truth in it. The impact of New
Testament Christianity has been largely lost, and it can
no longer be said: 'The men that turned the world upside
down have come here.' The best circles of Christianity
are troubled about their lack of power. What is the
reason for this? The Church has got mixed up with the
world. It is in captivity to the world. It is having to
use all the world's means, ways and resources to carry
on. It has not got enough of the real joy of the Lord to
prevent it from going to the world for its pleasures.
Now you may think that I am out of date, but I do not
believe that it is necessary to have worldly
entertainments and all those things to carry on
Christianity. I believe that it is possible to have the
most living testimony and the most joyful life without
any worldly entertainments. The loss of power is due to
the loss of distinctiveness.
DIVINE LIGHT BY DIVINE
I want now to come back again to this very vital
matter, and I want you to listen to this, especially my
brethren in ministry. Earlier we said that the Kingdom of
God is the Kingdom of light. That was the first great
thing in my crisis. I must speak out of my experience to
explain what I mean. I have told you that I was preaching
a great deal and was a Bible teacher. Well, how was I
doing it? I was a member of several theological libraries
and I used to go and spend hours in them, studying all
the authorities on the Bible. Sometimes I studied so hard
and so long that I had to get up and go for a walk
because my head was going round and round. I was having
to find the straw to make the bricks, and it was hard
work, but it was deadly work. It was all the work of my
head, my reason - 'flesh and blood' was revealing all
that to me. And then the crisis came. What was the
difference? It was no longer reason, but revelation. It
was no longer just human brain work, but Holy Spirit
inspiration. Yes, the Bible was a new book. Before, I
could have given you a very good lecture on the Letter to
the Ephesians, putting it all out on the blackboard, but
when God made that transition I saw what I had never
before seen in that book. My spirit was released and I
had a new world. The transition was from reason to
revelation, and it was a very wonderful transition.
THE FRUITS OF THE KINGDOM FOUND
IN THE CHURCH
Now we come back to the first passage of Scripture
that we read. Peter, in a moment of inspiration, said:
"Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living
God." What did Jesus say? 'Oh, Simon, you are a
blessed man! Flesh and blood did not reveal that to you.
You did not get that in the schools, nor by going to the
theological libraries. You did not get that by your own
brain effort. Flesh and blood did not reveal that to you,
but my Father in heaven.' You can go through the New
Testament and you will find that phrase 'Flesh and blood'
again and again, and wherever you find it you will see
that it is under a veto. It says: "Flesh and blood
cannot inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians
15:50), and the first and second chapters of the first
Corinthian letter are an enlargement of that fact.
"The natural man" (which is only another word
for flesh and blood) "receiveth not the things of
the Spirit of God... HE CANNOT KNOW THEM" (1
Corinthians 1:14). Flesh and blood cannot know the things
of the Spirit of God, for they are only known by the
Here is a transition. Peter had been receiving all the
teaching of Jesus and had seen His wonderful works. He
knew all of that - but it never saved him from denying
his Lord! It never prevented him from being a
contradiction to all the teaching, but later on, when
Peter got his 'opened heaven', he was free from Peter.
The great transition has been made. Now the teaching is
alive. Before it was truth, words, but now it is alive.
He has entered into the FRUIT of the Kingdom, and
the fruit of the Kingdom is light. The old Israel went
out in darkness. Jesus said to them: "The sons of
the kingdom shall be cast forth into the outer
darkness" (Matthew 8:12), and that is where they
have been for nearly two thousand years - in the outer
darkness with "the weeping and gnashing of
teeth". The Kingdom was taken from them and given to
a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof, and Peter
says that it is the Church that is the holy nation, so
that it is in the Church that the fruits of the Kingdom
are to be found.
EMPTYING OF SELF UNTO MORE
I must close, but just this last word. I said that
this passage in Matthew 16 represents a great transition.
It is the transition from all that is meant by flesh and
blood, the transition from natural energy, natural
wisdom, and all that is of ourselves, even in
Christianity, to that which is in life and revelation. Do
you want that? With all that you may have, do you not
want more of that? After the transition in Peter's life
he went on and on and on. We have it indicated that he
had some more crises after that big one, but every new
crisis brought him into more of the fruits of the
What are you going to do about it? Are you going to say:
'Lord! Lord! make it like that with me!'? Will you do
that? Have you the COURAGE to do that? Do you
recognize that immediately after that episode in Matthew
16 Jesus began to tell His disciples that He must go up
to Jerusalem and be delivered into the hands of wicked
men, and that they would kill Him? Peter said: 'None of
that, Lord. Oh, no, Lord, this shall never come to You.'
Peter was at that moment in danger of shutting the door
to an opened heaven, for the opened heaven lies by the
way of the Cross. You will only have more of the fruits
of the Kingdom as you have less of the fruits of self. In
the Cross of the Lord Jesus Peter was emptied of himself.
He was a broken man, but that was the way to the heavenly
Will you say: 'Lord, make this all real!'?